> how does it help, jesse -- my brother's a british army colonel and has done tours of afghanistan, iraq and so on. how does it help operationally if all the guys around are all wondering who's going to put this in a book? surely they all sign up, don't they, to not write about their experiences. >> well, he's out now, he's a civilian now. and i -- i just, you know, to me he has the first amendment right to -- or he should have them. if he's not giving away anything that's listed under national security or could affect anyone in the future operations, i say why not? like i said, i'd like to hear from boots on the ground what actually happened there, not some fragmented story that comes out of washington telling me what happened. so i don't have -- and besides you, the media, and the s.e.a.l.s themselves have allowed themselves to become like the green berets in the '60s and '70s now. i don't like the fact that you know we even exist. because back in the '60s and '70s, nobody even knew who we were. well, that's out of the bag now. hollywood's made plenty of films. you've had my friend dic